In this issue...
by Marsha Brandsdorfer
Letters to the Editor
Technology and Its Influence
on the Future
by Keith Fenwick
Review of Susan Rabin’s
book: "Cyberflirt: How To Attract Anyone, Anywhere on the Word
by Marsha Brandsdorfer
Hints from Hintz for Computers: 2nd
in the series
by Ernest Hintz
Club Member e-Mail Mailing List
by Ernest Hintz
issue will be the last issue I will edit. For various reasons, decided
that I do not have the time to work as editor of this newsletter anymore. It
has been a rewarding experience in many ways, and yet a pain-in-the-neck
in many other ways, due to the many problems I’ve encountered in
taking over the responsibility. As the weather will be getting
cooler soon, I would like to take the opportunity of the inclement weather
to work on other writing projects which I have in mind. As usual,
Bob Wallace will be doing the next issue, November/December 2000. He
will see if he can find another volunteer as alternative editor, or perhaps
put out all the issues himself, or change the scheduling of the newsletters. However,
if you would like to volunteer to help, please contact Bob Wallace at
4003 Branson Drive, San Mateo, California 94403. Note Bob’s
new e-mail address also: Also, be sure to contact Bob and
send him your articles for the next issue.
April 21, 2000
About the newsletter: You are a great writer !! Your way of writing
is really fun to read. I thought that you would write about computers,
but it is mostly about your personal life and thoughts that can apply
to many other people. You should make money on writing.
A newspaper would be a good idea !!
April 21, 2000
I read both your pieces in the computer club newsletter. You're
right; it is difficult here for many people. One can only decide
for himself or herself whether it's worth staying or not, because all
places have their advantages and disadvantages.
Technology and Its Influence on the Future
by Keith Fenwick
As we become more reliant on technology, one of the things that has
started to interest me is how much we will come to rely on computers
in the future and how, or if we will maintain some degree of control
over them. Relying on computers not just in our regulation and
monitoring of various situations and to collect and manipulate data,
but to actually make decisions on how we live with little or no human
Will the computer systems that are being developed now become intelligent,
almost sentient, and be able to operate, to run whole societies with
little or no human input? In the future, will we even program computers,
let alone monitor the activities of these systems? Or will we retain
some form of control over the artificial intelligence's that we will
no doubt develop as we seek new ways to make our lives easier and more
fulfilling or our businesses more efficient?
It seems to me that one of the important issues that faces the human
race in the future is who or what is ultimately in charge of our destiny? Will
there always be some human input, or a degree of human input and who
will decide who that will be? Alternatively, will we be content
to let some artificial entity that is beyond present conception to run
our affairs and perhaps ultimately supercede the human race?
When I was growing up, there was from time to time, a lot of talk about
how machines would revolutionize the world we live in. I always
used to conjure up visions of human form robots rather than computers
that would stride purposefully across the landscape undertaking all those
tasks that we had decided were beneath us. Domestic robots would
vacuum the floor, do the washing, cut the wood, and cook the meals. Other
robots would do things like drive buses and perform all the labor-intensive
tasks that humans did at work, but would gladly give up.
No doubt, these visions were fueled by the popular science fiction of
the day. The robots were coming and they were going to change the
world. The Asimov Robot series of novels, the sci-fi movies, and
television series of the time, fueled these impressions. Science
fiction which depicted societies either overrun with robots or grappling
with intelligent robot takeovers, or deciding to do away with them altogether,
because if we humans do not have anything to do with ourselves, we'll
either get ourselves into trouble or simply vegetate. The concept
of technological intelligence was always given a vaguely human form,
no doubt to make it easier to accept.
The reality today is likely to be a complex piece of equipment sitting
in a room somewhere that controls among other things; robots. One
of the alarming prospects of a technological society has always been
what happens to the people whose employment or prospect of employment
is taken over by robots or any other form of technology.
However, the most alarming prospect in my mind is not what people will
do with their time, but who or what will be telling them to do with it. It
is difficult to peer into the future and wonder what might happen given
the present state of global economic and political structures, which
we all operate in today. Structures that might not be suited to
a technological age, but which might still be in vogue far into the future. Who
actually owns the means of production and capitol, raw materials, and
labor and how those resources are shared around will largely determine
our individual roles in the future. Will we be ruled by large corporate
structures motivated by greed, an extension of the economic environment
we live in today, where we all work for a company, or not, as the case
might be and at their mercy for our livelihoods?
On the other hand, will new structures arise where everything is collectively
owned and will we find new ways of determining who deserves what reward
for their contribution to society? Will we collectively have any
input into these structures? Or will we be content, as long as
our basic needs are met and we can get on and enjoy life, to let someone
or something else worry about that for us? Given the interest shown
by many people today in politics, it is a natural assumption that we
may become less interested in politics or administration in the future
and then be at the mercy of whatever political or quasi-political structures
that might develop. It is an intriguing speculation to wonder whether
the present belief that the free market is the best solution to cure
our economic and social ills.
The open, capitalist market orientated economic model that the western nations
of this world have been championing since the advent of the first communist
economy in Russia might well be replaced by something quite similar to
the old communist model at some stage in the future. Where everything
is collectively owned and there is no concept of individual control or
ownership. The choice or development of, a new economic system
might come down to whether we can overcome our primeval instincts that
glorify the ethic of survival of the fittest at all costs and try something
new. The time is long past when the survival of the human race
or various parts of it relied on this style of behavior, the ruler of
the tribe no longer has to be the best hunter or warrior, or one of its
In many ways the glorification of the free market is simply a modern
manifestation of the increasingly obsolescent survival of the fittest
ethic. We do not have to look very far for economic models that
might be modified to enhance our lives in the new technological or digital
age that is upon us. The subsistence style economies of the pre-European
Pacific Islands are not unique but they are an example of economies that
developed under conditions that in many cases ensured that the necessities
of life were in abundant supply.
Gathering enough food to ensure that a family, tribe, or village, or
any other social structure, did not require much effort and because of
the perishable nature of the food, any surplus was given away. The
social and political structures that developed within these economies
are another matter and would not suit any modern age just as European
feudal societies are not a suitable model. We are hopefully long
past the time when a few aristocratic landowners or hereditary rulers
ruled the roost and education was reserved for those prepared to undertake
priestly duties. While the term robot conjures up an image of a
machine built in the image of a man, the robots we have today are far
more likely to be a piece of equipment monotonously performing some task
in an industrial plant somewhere.
The real impact of technological development has been in the data processing
equipment that controls robots or machines; computers. That is
all a computer is, something that can make rapid and very complex calculations. How
many widgets that have to be built, what shape they should be, and what
materials should be used to create those widgets. As our skill
in building computers and writing the software that runs them improves
so does their complexity and ability.
However, they remain electronic machines, tools for us to employ in a
wide range of endeavors. This might not always be true, we may
endow then with some form of intelligence, or it is possible that they
will develop a level of real intelligence or reasoning themselves if
we are not careful.
We are becoming increasingly reliant on computers in our lives and in
the not too far future massive and incredibly complex computing systems
will be developed that can autonomously run entire societies. Computer
systems will control everything from how many widgets are made and where,
to monitoring and controlling the environments we live in, and possibly
regulating most other parts of our lives. Talk of intelligent computers
has emerged out of the realms of science fiction to become an everyday
reality in today's world. Even my motorbike has a processor attached
to the carburetor that can "remember" throttle settings for
more efficient operation.
As we become more reliant on computers and other technology, we also
become more collectively vulnerable to problems that may occur. Most
of us have probably had experiences where our lives have been plunged
into turmoil because of a computer problem. It might be something
as simple as the electronic funds transfer system breaking down just
as you reach the checkout counter at the supermarket or the computer
that runs the payroll at work falling over just as the wages are being
sorted out. More likely is that the personal computer you use in
your home or work has had a frustrating fit that is not simply resolved. Simple
things, not in themselves fatal, but an indication of our total reliance
in some areas on computers and electronic networked systems.
What worries me is that in our arrogance or assumption that technology
is fool proof, we will develop systems on which we are totally reliant,
but discover that we have no control over. Imagine a whole town,
city, or nation, let alone the whole planet, totally reliant on a supposedly
intelligent or fool proof system to regulate environments or provide
food that suddenly develops a mind of its own or starts to malfunction.
What happens if we develop an artificial intelligence to run our world
that suddenly decides that we are not a necessity to the efficient running
of whatever society develops in the future? If we blithely assume
that any system we develop is infallible, then we may find ourselves
in a situation where it is impossible to unplug a system that we have
developed even if we recognize what is going on because we are totally
reliant on that system in order to survive.
If you think this kind of concept is a bit far fetched, think back a
few months and recall the publicity surrounding the possible effects
that the so-called Y2K bug might have had on our societies and what may
have happened if all the dire predictions surrounding the advent of the
new millennium had come true.
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"Review of 'Cyberflirt: How to Attract
Anyone, Anywhere On the World Wide Web' - by Susan Rabin with Barbara
By Marsha Brandsdorfer
"Susan Rabin's book is about utilizing the Internet as an
opportunity for dating.. Susan talks about the different avenues
on the Internet where you can meet people. One area she discusses
is chat rooms. Personally, I found chat rooms to be a major waste
of time. It reminds me of a late night bar, wherein everyone is
talking at the same time, not listening, yelling to be heard, and not
making any sense. I think that a lot of young kids and teenagers
like the chat rooms, so certainly the chances of meeting anyone seriously
are limited there.
She also mentions message boards aka "news groups." I haven't
used news groups in years, but I did find it can be a nice place to meet someone. I
have been corresponding via e-mail for about five years now with Keith, from
New Zealand. We initially "met" when I posted a message on a
news group, and Keith responded. Message boards are where you will find "nearly
every special interest or hobby site, (and they) function much the same way as
personal ads do. You compose a message, either entirely of your own creation,
or relating to someone else's posted question or comment, then wait for a reply. If
the site is a popular one, I guarantee you, you will not have to wait long." (pg.
Personal ads are another venue for opportunities. My friend Tom corresponded
to several women through the Yahoo Personals, and is now dating someone. It's
not a guarantee, however. I answered a few Yahoo Personals on but I hadn't
received any responses. It probably helped that Tom posted to these women
that he had an extra ticket to an expensive theater show and was looking for
someone to attend it with him. Fortunately, he ended up liking the woman
he did end up going to the show with and they decided to see each other again. However,
if they hadn't any chemistry, it could have made his theater experience a memorable
experience in more ways than one.
Susan mentions single sites, and in the back of the book she lists some. I
personally have a free personal ad running on and . Susan says that
posting a photo is not necessary, and in some cases not recommended. I
have found that most people who post photos post old photos of themselves when
they were younger. I met a man through who sent me a photo attachment
of himself. He was not bad looking when I met him, but I remembered that
in the photo he sent me he didn't have the gray hair that he had in person. I
personally don't feel comfortable sending photos of myself to "strangers." I
would have to be corresponding for a long time, before I were to send a photo,
if ever. Some men have asked me immediately to forward a photo of myself
or asked me for my home telephone number, and when I decline, sometimes they
stop writing. However, I don't mind, since I don't want to be judged on
my photo anyway, and don't feel comfortable giving out my phone number immediately
either. I gave one man my phone number too soon, and he kept calling
me every day. We talked a few times and every time he quoted the Old Testament
or the Torah and talked about religion constantly and it just turned me off,
since I am not religious at all, and he sounded like a religious fanatic. Since
he had my phone number, he kept calling and leaving me messages on my voice mail. I
just did not respond and finally he gave up. However, it was a nuisance
and that lesson reminded me to be more cautious about who I give my phone number
to and when.
Another man asked me after writing me two times, if he could have my telephone
number. I refused and then I never heard from him again. And other
one lives in Boston, hasn't asked for my photo or phone number, and we have become
Susan encourages using the Internet as a source to meet people, because
it has a large circulation. This is true since it does go all over the
world. She says that also many web personals are free and the ones I mentioned
above are. There are those that charge and I haven't tried any of them,
except for , which gave me a free 10-day trial. One man wrote me, but I
wasn't interested as he lived about 60 miles away, and therefore I didn't respond. Another
good thing about the net, is that you don't have to "reject" anyone,
per say. When someone asks me out in person, who I am not interested in,
I have to reject them face-to-face, and that is difficult and uncomfortable for
me. On the Internet, you can just write that you are not interested or
not respond. It's much easier.
Early in her book, Susan does mention about using caution. I was
very glad to read this, because it can not be emphasized enough. She
says to "regard your Internet acquaintance as exactly what he or
she is: a stranger. Assume you know nothing of his or her background,
motivation or intentions....Keep your personal information to yourself." (pg.
6). I have a mail box address I use, so if I want to give out an
address for someone to send me a card or photo, I tell them that address. I
never give out my home address. As I mentioned above, I have learned
to not be readily free in giving out my phone number.
Susan says: "Don't believe what anyone tells you. Everything
you know about a 'net-quaintance could be the truth, or it could be a compilation
of hand-picked omissions.." (pg. 6) For instance, I met someone on the net
who told me he was divorced. We met two times in a public place, and the
second time he confessed he was still married, but separated. His confession
occurred when he stated he had a lot of grief about "family lawyers," since
he said he was dealing with one now to divorce his wife. I said, "I
thought you were already divorced?" He said, "No, well, I will
be. I'm living apart from her." This example shows how people
can tell half-truths.
In "Cyberflirt," Susan says not to respond to hostile, threatening
or obscene messages. I've had some e-mail pals write me some weird messages,
or sometimes just very opinionated. I know it's better to just not respond
to those than take the time to even answer.
Susan says, ".. use your head if you choose to meet the special
someone face to face. What you are planning is a blind date with a total
stranger. Agree to meet only in a public place. That means no cars,
no secluded sports, no apartments or houses.... It's always better to be safe
than sorry." (pg. 7) I highly recommend cafes for a first meeting. There
are certainly enough Starbucks around. This way you can have some coffee
and talk, and aren't committed to a long span of time. You can stay longer
if you want, and if you want to leave, you can just go, and so can the other
Susan states in her book, there are several advantage of meeting people
through the net. One main item that I agree with is that you are
doing it on your own time and on your own "turf." She says that
if you don't want to deal with someone, you don't know to. I personally
like that it's on my own time. I can e-mail people late at night, early
in the morning. I don't have to worry about waking them up, or staying
on the phone a long time! I can respond when I feel like it, and don't
feel like I'm put on the spot.
In "Cyperflirt," Susan says that it is easy for people to respond
to web personals because the "Internet sites make it easy for an interested
party to respond to an ad. There's no stationery to choose.. no stamps
to buy and no hassles.." (pg. 79). She says: "There are two general
types of personals spaces: large, singles-oriented, well-visited sites whose
purpose is general matchmaking (men in search of women, men in search of men,
women in search of women, etc.) and smaller, more narrowly targeted, interest-oriented
sites whose goal is matchmaking within a specific group of people (i.e. single
parents, Jewish or Christian singles, antique collectors, readers of certain
magazines, etc.)." (pg. 80).
Susan gives some tips on running an ad. She says to be specific,
but brief. I remember when I lived in New York and liked readings some
ads in the back of New York Magazine. Some of the longest ads were
from men and went on and on. I knew that advertising in New York Magazine was
quite expensive, so I just thought these guys were show-offs, expressing that
they have money and that's why they can run long ads. I did not think that
a long ad meant this person was any better than someone running an average 10-word
She says that you shouldn't write about your medical history or your pet
peeves, or the disappointments of your lifetime. Who wants to read, "I
was married ten years, my wife dumped me, she took the kids and now I'm bitter
and don't trust anyone over the age of thirty. But, I am lonely now. Please
The personal ad, Susan suggests, should be positive, maybe even include
some wit. She includes a list of some words that might be used if you feel
this way about yourself. They include: "energetic, warm, vibrant,
caring, adventurous, creative, witty, romantic, sensitive, upbeat." (pg.
The author of "Cyperflirt" also writes about responding to ads. She
says that "to get the best response, don't be the first response. The
e-mail generated by a personal ad tends to come in a monumental early rush, then
trickle off as time goes by. Needless to say, recipients tend to weed out
the early returns heavily, often without even carefully reading them. When
you see an interesting ad, wait a week or two before e-mailing. You we
be less apt to be deleted with the earlier candidates." (pg. 91).
This is true, wherein I belong to a club called the "E-Mail Club" (,and in
the beginning when I first ran my ad, I had about twenty responses. I tried
to answer as many as I could, but it just got overwhelming, and so I weeded out
many that had responded. However, now that I only get responses once in
a while, I write almost everyone who writes me.
Susan suggests to avoid conversational turn-offs. For instance, don't
be quick to judge or criticize, or be opinionated. In the e-mail
club listing, I mentioned that I liked bowling (as I had belonged to a league
at the time), and that I liked the spectator sport of hockey. This man
wrote me and said, "Really, Marsha. Come-on bowling and hockey? You
must like something more interesting than that. Why not something fun,
like dancing?" Needless to say, his message not only did not get a
response from me, but I happily enjoyed hitting "delete."
Susan says also, that if you want, you can creative your own web site. I
haven't done this, although I may want to in the future, since I have a lot of
hobbies and interests. Keith, in New Zealand loves dirt bike riding and
has written a science fiction novel, and has a personal site dedicated to these
hobbies. It is: www.home.iprolink.co.nz/~sam/.
Susan writes that you might register your site at search engines. I
think that I am missing out on not having a web site, which could be a good biography
of myself. I could certainly clarify a lot of facts about myself on the
site, which I wouldn't have to constantly repeat to e-mail pals. For instance,
in my site, I would mention that I belong to the San Francisco Computer Peninsula
Club, and list some of my hobbies and interests, including going to San Jose
Sharks games, attending movies, reading and writing. Susan suggests setting
up a guest book on your site or having easy access for people to e-mail you. This
could be another way of meeting people.
If you want to eventually meet the people you correspond with on the Internet,
again to be sure to use caution. Sometimes the net gets a bad rap, because
some people who spend hours on their computer might be considered to be socially
inapt, or a psycho, as we hear stories about people being taken advantage of
by people they corresponded with on the Internet. Susan says that you'll
be less likely to meet a fraud, cheat or sicko on the Internet, if you ask yourself
some of these questions before setting up that first date (which, I reiterate
should be in a public place):
"Make a list of every fact you know about this person: his real name, his
age, his physical type, his profession, etc....."
T ab"Refer to your list of facts again. Ask yourself how you
know these facts. Are these things he has told you? How many
of them are details that you might have surmised, assumed or projected?.."
T ab"Is his schedule flexible... Could he have 'forgotten' to mention
his wife and three children in his personal ad?..."
T ab"How much do you know about her family/personal life? Did
she pull you in by revealing a personal drama or problem? It is
dangerous to become involved with a drama queen - particularly one you
really don't know."
T ab"In what areas does he express the must curiosity about you?...
Does he want to know what kind of books or films you like? Or does
he ask the most questions about how you invest your money?" (pg.
Susan says that if you meet a person through the Internet, to be sure not
to have a false sense of intimacy, unrealistic expectations, and look at geography
as an issue.
Of course, it is not good to become a "cyber-addict," wherein
you spend more time on the Internet than you do with real people around you. I
think that, in conclusion, if you have a balanced life, use common sense, and
have some time to dedicate to the Internet, you might find it is a good place
to meet some interesting people. I know that, although I haven't
met anyone through the net to date at this time, I still have made very interesting
I think Susan Rabin's book is a good reference guide to using the Internet
as another source to meet people. However, like anything else worthwhile,
it requires time and patience. One of my e-mail pals Garry, in New York
sent me this book, but it mentions at the end of the book, you can purchase a
copy on the web at or by calling Penguin Putnam books at 800/253-6476.
"Hints from Hintz for Computers: 2nd in the
series" By Ernest Hintz
Edited by Bob Wallace and Marsha Brandsdorfer (editors of SFPCC newsletter). If
you have any additions or any questions please e-mail email@example.com
"Don't leave home without your Favorites URLs (IE):
1. Next time you're at your computer, copy your favorite folder to
a floppy disc and take it along with you. When visiting your friend, or
mother-in-law, etc., and discussion leads to a web site you want to share, you're
all prepared. Netscape users can do something similar by copying the Bookmark.htm
Finding the file you worked on 6 or 12 months ago (WINs & NT):
2. Go to the start button, find or search (depending on what version
of Windows or NT you're using), then click on files and folders. Again,
depending on what version of Windows you're using, you either can go to advanced,
or in Windows 2000 there is a box asking for "Containing text." You
recall that in the document you're looking for, you used the words "Main
St." and "Waverley Ave." You then enter these into the "containing
text" area, and start the search. You can reduce the length of time
the search will take, if you are sure that the document that you're looking for
is in one folder or sub-folders under that folder. If you're not sure,
let it search your complete hard drive and list the files that the search program
finds with the text you entered.
Uninterruptible Power Supply or UPS (all computers):
3. Here in California, seldom were there power outages. However,
due to the wisdom of deregulation of power, it appears that forced power outages
or so-called "brown outs" are a real threat. In the past, some
considered this a power user item. However, today, with useful UPS prices
in the $100+- price range, it should be a standard item. Have you ever
been in the middle of a project, such as a spreadsheet, maybe at tax time, or
writing a lengthy e-mail, and suddenly somewhere in the house the same electrical
line your computer is connected to blew the fuse or circuit breaker? If
you have a UPS, this becomes a minor experience. If it is a major power
outage, you can quickly save what you're working on and shut down your computer
in an orderly fashion. Sam's club, or Costco, or probably a number of other
places offer UPS that runs in the range of 500 VA. If you do not understand
what 500 VA stands for, in brief it means that you should have enough power to
power your computer and monitor to shut it down within 5 to 20 minutes. If
the fuse or circuit breaker in your house or office blew, it gives you enough
time to find it and get the power back on. If there is a major brownout,
it should give you enough time to save your work and shutdown in an orderly fashion. APC
(www.apcc.com) unit with 500 VA with about 15 minutes of battery power, was available
at Sam's club late July 2000, for under $80. Final suggestion, is to purchase
a unit that has the capability of shutting down your computer on its own, via
a cable that comes with the UPS, and a unit for which you can replace the battery,
should the battery or one of the batteries fail. Also, there are some companies
other than APC that make good units.
Excel Spreadsheet shortcut (Win9x & NT):
4. In Excel, when adding up cells, you can use this formula. Use
= sum (first cell:last cell). Then = sum (B6:B18), by dragging your mouse
over the cells you want to include in the formula. Notice that the column
from B6 through B18 is for a total of 12 cells, and also after inserting this
formula, you must hit Enter key.
ShowDeskTop Icon (Win9x & NT):
5. For those of you that have installed Windows Explorer 4.x and
above, you may notice an icon near your start button that has a yellow pencil
in the center of what looks like an old ink desk blotter. If you put your
mouse over it, it will say "Show Desktop". Here is a good way
of using this icon. No doubt, once you become familiar with it, you will
find your own uses. For example, if you're writing a private letter and
a family member or office colleague walks up to your computer, all you have to
do is click on this icon and everything open on your desktop will minimize. Now
you can speak with the visitor without any concern that they are reading what
is on your screen. After your visitor leaves, click on Show Desktop again,
and voila, you will be back where you left off.
A few short cut keys (most Win document programs):
6. Ctrl+Home goes to beginning of document.
Ctrl+End goes to end.
Alt+underline letter on menu opens the menu.
Alt+F And then O in Word to Open a document.
[Ctrl-O opens a document in WordPerfect. -Bob]
Screen shots - this can print picture of a window when a print
option is not available:
7. Open a Wordprocessor program (Word or WordPad). Switch to
the Window you want to print (example: C drive in My Computer). Switch
to Word by using Windows Taskbar Microsoft Word button at the bottom of screen. Edit/Paste
or click on paste button on Word/WordPad toolbar. Now you can print
the screen shot.
Ctrl+Alt+Del can help you close or shutdown a frozen program (Win9x):
8. Ctrl+Alt+Del will bring up closed program windows with the frozen
program on top, and if you're using standard window colors, it will be highlighted
in blue. Click on the program that is frozen or which window is not responding. Next
Click on End Task button. It may take several times of End Task button
to end the frozen or non-responding program.
Document list on the Start Menu (Win9x, NT, Win2k):
9. The document list is a fast way of going back to the document
or documents you were working on last, since it lists about the last 10 or so
files that you opened. I have been asked how to clear this, so that the
next user of the computer will not see what documents were worked on last. My
recommendation is use MS program PowerToys listed in the Control Panel as Tweak
UI (discussed in the last Hints from Hintz). Under the far right hand tab
called Paranoia (first heading under this tab is Covering Your Tracks),
you will see an item you can tag, listed as Clear Document history at logon.
WordPad (Win9x, NT, Win2k):
10. WordPad comes with all the above versions of Windows. WordPad
only takes up 1.2 mb of hard disk space and can save and read Word for Windows
version 6.0 format, including RTF (Rich Text Format). So next time the
computer you're working on does not have a word processing program, use WordPad. Granted,
it does not have spell or grammar checking built in, but it is fast and a very
useful program. Now there is no excuse that your relatives or friends can
not open the Word for Windows documents you saved in version 6.0 format and e-mailed
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it from the Windows installation CD or diskette
"Club Member e-Mail Mailing List" By
Edited by Bob Wallace and Marsha Brandsdorfer (editors of SFPCC newsletter). If
you have any additions or any questions please e-mail firstname.lastname@example.org
"Our Computer club has established an Internet e-mail mailing
list for the SFPCC club members to easily exchange computer questions
and computer ideas. As a club member you may discuss e-mail questions,
suggestions, etc. For some time, your SFPCC Executive board has
successfully operated a private closed mailing list. Incidently,
any club member is welcome to also join the SFPCC Executive board and
the SFPCC e-mail list, and may do so by attending at least three
executive board meetings.
SFPCC-L is a CLOSED LIST
IMPORTANT - DO NOT post this list mailing address on the SFPCC club's
web page or any other web page, or anywhere else on the Internet. The
REASON is that the SFPCC list does not wish to become part of any
SPAM mailing list.
The SFPCC e-mail mailing list address is SFPCC-L@e-groups.com (for
SFPCC club members only)
OBJECTIVE (mission) of the SFPCC e-mail list
1. Sharing of information and questions that club members have.
2. Use of the SFPCC e-mail list is more timely than leaving your
question until club meeting.
3. In addressing/e-mailing the SFPCC e-mail list, you avoid having
a lengthy Internet list of addresses. This way also avoids that your recipients
of your e-mail shouldn't end up on mailing lists or additional SPAM list
they don't want to be on.
4. The main benefit of this list is that, as members, we know each
other, therefore, the answers are well intended and positively directed to you,
individually. Yes, we all know there is a vast amount of Newsgroups, Internet
addresses and other e-mail lists; however, these usually tend to address a broad
number of questions and answers, as well as unfortunately, contain SPAM mail. Also,
your individual e-mail address has a higher degree of possibility of becoming
part of SPAM mail list.
No SFPCC e-mail address list will be given out by the SFPCC club or SFPCC
e-mail list to ANYONE. This list belongs to San Francisco Peninsula Computer
Club, not any one specific member.
MODERATORS - (function to add or delete club members from SFPCC e-mail
1. Bob Wallace
2. Ernest Hintz
JOINING and TERMINATION
1. JOINING: Club members who wish to subscribe to the list
can do so by sending an e-mail to SFPCC-L@egroups.com. Ask to join and
identify yourself as a SFPCC club member. Please allow approximately 2-4
working days for the list moderators to approve you for full access.
2. TERMINATION of write access from SFPCC e-mail list. If any
2 club members disapproves strongly of another club member's e-mail behavior,
these 2 club members must e-mail the moderators a copy of the disapproving e-mail
and the reasons that the e-mail should not be part of the list. These 2
club members must e-mail their complaint to the moderator and the club member that
they disapprove of the e-mail behavior. Once the complaint is received
by a moderator, a follow-up e-mail warning notice from the moderator will be
sent to the SFPCC list, thereby putting on notice for one month from the date
warned, the club member whom the complaint addresses.
3. SUSPENSION: If any club member has 3 active individual complaints,
his club member's SFPCC e-mail writing function to the SFPCC e-mail list will
be indefinitely be suspended.
4. APPEAL: Any club member who is suspended from the SFPCC
e-mail list can appeal their suspension from the list at a SFPCC Executive
board meeting. If the club member is not satisfied with the SFPCC
Executive board majority decision, the club member may appeal at will to the
SFPCC general membership at a SFPCC general club meeting.
SFPCC e-mail list RULES
1. NO e-mails regards politics or religion.
2. NO e-mails regards jokes or junk mail.
3. NO profanity of any sort.
Any additional or future rule will be posted in the SFPCC e-mail list.
Suggestions on HOW-TO-USE the SFPCC e-mail list
1. Use short sentences and bullet points.
2. If using text from an e-mail that you're responding to, include
the relevant text, not the whole e-mail.
3. Mark urgent e-mails with words like "help!" or "crisis" -
but use these words sparingly!
4. USE "DRIB" (Don't Read If Busy) in the subject line,
so that the recipient knows it can wait.
5. FILE attachments should not be sent to SFPCC e-mail list, unless
more than 3 people ask for the same file. Note if you are attaching a file,
make sure the person getting them has the capability to download them quickly
and easily. [Some e-mail providers do not allow file attachments within
their services. -Bob]
6. No question is a DUMB question, and ask for the reply to be addressed
back to the SFPCC e-mail list.
7. Finally, If you want a reply, ask for one.
Please notice that the e-mail list the SFPCC list is using has small advertisements
at the bottom of each e-mail. If we wish to eliminate this, there is an
approximate cost of $60 annually. It is up to all of us as SFPCC
Club members to participate, for we can make this list as functional or good
as we want to.
Note, should you login the www.egroup.com web site, any personal information
you post on the group web site is not within the control of the SFPCC e-mail
list. Note that to participate in the SFPCC list, you do not need to give
out any personal information; you only have to be a SFPCC club member.
Meetings are always the second Thursday of the month at 222 Laurel Street,
at 7:30 p.m. Cross streets are Oak and Hull. Please do not
park directly in front of the building. You may park at the lot
behind the stores at Oak and El Camino, or park down the street, parking
in front of the building is reserved for residents of the complex. Look
for signs leading to the meeting room. Occasionally, access to
our meeting room is unavailable, and since we do not want to cancel any
meetings, we would then meet at the Round Table Pizza just up the street
on El Camino. This does not happen often. However, should
you find that the meeting room is locked, please look for us at the pizza
place, and buy yourself an inexpensive salad! Sorry for the inconvenience.
The next meetings are September 14, 2000 and October 12, 2000 (Columbus
For September, the presentation planned is "Windows 98 Control
Panel and Tools" by Jerry Havnar.
At the time of publication, scheduling had not been determined for our
October meeting. Lee Hill suggests checking our club web site for
an update. Remember, it is www.sfpnn.org. You can also
check out Judy Oliphant's page, which is: www.sirius.com/~jlo.
[On a personal note: The San Francisco Giants are
doing great this year. Let's hope they make it
play-offs. - Marsha]
Sorry to hear of your departure
as editor of SFPCC Newsletter
Good Luck, Marsha on your new adventures in writing.
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